Ain't that a kick in the teeth?
Two years ago, despite great reviews, Ladytron's luck vanished. They tell Jude Rogers how the internet, fans and a little gung-ho touring restored their fortunes
They arrived, with perfect timing, at the start of the 21st century: two girls and two boys from different parts of the world, coming together in the rock'n'roll city of Liverpool, making pop music primed for the space age. Critics and fans adored them, the mainstream beckoned and the future they conjured up so vividly in their songs looked to be theirs. Then Ladytron's bad luck began.
"We could have had a press conference on the Great Wall of China with Jean-Michel Jarre. Imagine it! The old and the new electronic worlds together at last - we could shake hands and usher in the new era. But, given us, it obviously didn't happen".
Ladytron - Daniel Hunt, Helen Marnie, Mira Aroyo and Reuben Wu - are sitting in a distinctly unfuturistic tapas bar in London's King's Cross, ordering jamón and manchego. Hunt, the new owner of a distinctly unfuturistic handlebar moustache and man with a nice line in sarcasm, is speaking in a broad Merseyside accent on the eve of their fourth album, Velocifero, and remembering the time when they were in the far east.
"Come on, it would have been perfect, wouldn't it?" he laughs, half-joking, looking at his band. Wu, his fellow Liverpudlian and male Ladytronian, ruffles his quiff of black hair and points out that they got to shake Kenny G's hand instead. Glaswegian Marnie and Bulgarian Aroyo, the sharp, stylish women whose sweet, icy voices carry Ladytron's records, look at each other, sigh theatrically, and laugh like drains.
The band's woe-is-us banter may be slightly exaggerated, but it has solid foundations. Ladytron had a prolific start, forming in 1999 and releasing their first two albums, 604 and Light & Magic, in the next two years. Their music sounded gorgeously sharp, modern and strange, reminding listeners of 1980s synth pop, shoegazing, the 90s electronica of Warp records and the likes of Stereolab, Broadcast and Air. Their lyrics were impressively disaffected, too. Prominent tracks from their early years included Playgirl ("Why are you sleeping in tomorrow's world? Why are you dancing when you could be alone?") and the modern morality lesson Seventeen ("They only want you when you're 17. When you're 21, you're no fun").
Then in 2005, Ladytron released Witching Hour, teeming with confident, alternative club classics. It had great reviews in the indie, electronic and mainstream music press. Then, Hunt explains, their labels let them down. "In Britain, Universal/Island completely fucked it up". How? "You know, the guy who signs you leaves the label, everyone nods and pretends, 'Yeah, we really understand the band and believe in it', at the same time as they're cutting off the air supply. Classic, really".
The same happened in America. There, they were a priority act for Emperor Norton, which had promised to spend a large sum on the group. Soon after, Rykodisc bought the label, closed it down, and axed all its bands apart from Ladytron. "We weren't happy", explains Hunt, "but we thought, 'Ah, how bad can it get?' Then we were told no money would be spent on the album, then they didn't organise any interviews for us, and for a long while" - Hunt's voice is dripping with contempt - "the only way of getting the record was to download it". But then something strange happened. Slowly but surely, the album started to flourish and sell well. How? "Touring it off our own back", says Aroyo. "On the sly", adds Wu.
In the past two years, Ladytron have played the UK, Europe and North America extensively and taken it upon themselves to tour where the fans wanted them to. "Bands generally have pressure about where to play by their labels", says Aroyo. "But as our label didn't care, we went to the places other bands won't - because they're told not to. Places like Russia, Mexico, Colombia, where there are really developed scenes but less money".
Their December 2006 gig in the Colombian capital, Bogotá, was a special example. Many of the 5,000 fans wore homemade Ladytron masks and others had sprayed fan graffiti around the city. Witching Hour had never been available there, but YouTube clips reveal a band drowned out by fans knowing every word of their record.
Then Ladytron's luck almost turned again: the Colombian military turned up to storm the gig and demand protection money. They were only put off until after the set was done because the son of the president, Alvaro Ulribe, was there. "Thank God", Marnie laughs. "Somehow, we managed to get out of that one".
But how did they get that level of support in Colombia without a record? "The internet", says Aroyo. Songs such as "Destroy Everything You Touch" travelled all by themselves. So although Island reissued the album last summer for one last push, it almost didn't need it: Witching Hour eventually become their biggest album to date. "The internet liberated us - putting us as people directly in touch with our fans, wherever they were", Aroyo explains. The key to Ladytron, though, isn't technology, it's songs. Their topics suggest a yearning for a future sanctuary from the past, but they insist this isn't because they're "sci-fi" - it's more about their songs' human core.
Aroyo sings two tracks in her native Bulgarian on Velocifero, and calls Ladytron's new album folk music. "We're just writing about what we know, and it happens that we're surrounded by technology. Certain technological objects didn't exist 60 years ago as they do now, so all we're doing is building them into our songs". She smiles. "So to me, our songs are like fairytales".
Surely it's time for Ladytron to get lucky? "Who knows?" says Hunt. "We seem to have been doing pretty well by ourselves, so let's just keep going". And then, a few days after we meet, Ladytron play a sold-out headline show at the London Astoria. It's their chance to perform new songs to an eager crowd, to make their own luck. But, partway through the set, the sound system packs up. The quartet trudge off, perhaps hoping normal service has not been resumed.
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06 April 2011
05 April 2011
Ladytron - Janice Long, 2008
Format: MP3, ~220kbps VBR
Note: acoustic session
Track listing:
1. Interview
2. Ghosts
3. Interview
4. Versus
5. Interview
6. The Last One Standing
7. Interview
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Note: acoustic session
Track listing:
1. Interview
2. Ghosts
3. Interview
4. Versus
5. Interview
6. The Last One Standing
7. Interview
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04 April 2011
Ladytron - Koneisto Festival, 2001
Format: MP3, 192 kbps CBR
Track listing:
1. Discotraxx
2. Holiday 601
3. Another Breakfast With You
4. Commodore Rock
5. This Is Our Sound
6. Playgirl
7. Skools Out...
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Track listing:
1. Discotraxx
2. Holiday 601
3. Another Breakfast With You
4. Commodore Rock
5. This Is Our Sound
6. Playgirl
7. Skools Out...
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03 April 2011
Ladytron - HiFi Bar, Melbourne, 2009
Content: Black Cat / Runaway / Ghosts / High Rise / I'm Not Scared / True Mathematics / Season of Illusions / Soft Power / Discotraxx / International Dateline / Fighting in Built Up Areas / Tomorrow / Seventeen / Versus / Destroy Everything You Touch
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we7 interview (2011)
Formed back in 1999 in Liverpool, Ladytron are an electropop band comprised of Helen Marnie, Mira Aroyo, Reuben Wu and Daniel Hunt. Since starting out the band have released four albums and numerous EPs, building up a cult following of fans and have toured extensively around the world.
Having just put out their latest EP, Ace of Hz, Ladytron are set to release their fifth album later this year as well as their greatest hits album Best of 00-10, and are also set to tour after the release of album number five.
We caught up with Ladytron's vocalist and synth player Mira to find out more about what we can expect from their new releases.
You started out in 1999, how did you all get together?
Well Danny and Reuben knew each other from Liverpool, from the music scene there. Helen went to university in Liverpool, and I met Danny through a German friend of mine. We kind of all got together and didn't really know whether anything would work out or where it was going to go so we just started working on a few songs and started releasing singles little by little. Nearly every single that we released ended up being single of the week in NME at the time, so the first time it happened we thought oh great let's release another one it's probably a one off, and then it happened again and again, so we decided to put an album together.
We recorded the first album – bits of it were done in Liverpool and bits of it were done in Wales, and put it out as a mini LP on a Japanese label, so it was released only in Japan and over here on import. It ended up getting picked up by a record label called Emperor Norton in the US through this guy called Steve Pross, who kind of obsessively collects and I think was really into Japanese pop music at the time, which was something that we were into a little bit as well.
Was Japanese pop one of your main influences as a band?
There were a few compilations that came out of there in the late 90s, and German record label Bungalow released a couple of Japanese pop compilations at the time, and it wasn't so much that they were influential, it's just they were doing something that didn't seem to be done in Europe at the time.
When we got together we came from slightly different influences. I was into krautrock, Helen was more into pop, Danny and Reuben were into French electronic music, and we were all into 60s disco music. So there were a lot similarities as well but we just wanted to make something that wasn't around at the time, and also three of us were DJing and so kind of knew what music we wanted to play and at the time it wasn't being done so we almost ended up making music to just satisfying our needs to begin with.
How do you go about creating a track, do you usually have a typical process that you tend to follow?
We rarely get together as a band and just sit there with nothing to work on and think let's jam. Usually someone has worked on an idea and maybe it's like a riff, a sound or a beat, or maybe it's much more complete and it's an instrumental track and it needs lyrics. So every track is completely different, you might have had a melody in your head for ages and then suddenly you sit down and start building it up. Or other times you are messing about at home and you find a sound that you like.
You've done quite a few remixes over the years – are there any that really stand out as remixes you particularly enjoyed doing?
I enjoyed working on the Nine Inch Nails mix, just because I really respect them production wise so it was really nice to be asked to do something like that. Blondie as well was great to work on as I'm a massive fan – it's just amazing to hear how it was made and to hear it in parts, I would never had imagined that we'd actually do anything like that. It's something I listened to as a kid so I never imagined I would be able to do that.
You've opened for some great bands, what was your best experience?
Nine Inch Nails was a really amazing tour that brought us a few new fans, it was just good to go out with an established band rather than a band that's kind of hyped at the time, and also a band who's work you really respect. And it was nice that they asked us, I think Trent really liked our music so that was good to know.
You've been around for over ten years as a band, how do you feel about the changes in the music industry?
There are a lot of things we don't think about, but I think the main thing we focus on is to primarily satisfy us and stick by our guns and never try to second guess what an audience or a record label is going to do. We've been on so many labels that have folded, and if it wasn't for us sticking through it then we wouldn't have survived.
Obviously we live in a much more globalized world these days, it has its downside as people don't pay for your music a lot of the time, but on the plus side people in Columbia can hear your record when it's not even out and you can go and play in front of 3000 people there.
What is the inspiration for the album, and how does it compare or differ to your previous releases?
I feel that they've all differed and a couple of times there's been a bigger jump from previous releases than other times. With Velocifero I don't think that was a huge departure from Witching Hour, it was more of a progression. Whereas now I feel with this album there's another big jump, and in a way releasing the Best Of almost wipes the slate clean. It's a lot more of an atmospheric record than previous ones, more mature without being boring.
Having just put out their latest EP, Ace of Hz, Ladytron are set to release their fifth album later this year as well as their greatest hits album Best of 00-10, and are also set to tour after the release of album number five.
We caught up with Ladytron's vocalist and synth player Mira to find out more about what we can expect from their new releases.
You started out in 1999, how did you all get together?
Well Danny and Reuben knew each other from Liverpool, from the music scene there. Helen went to university in Liverpool, and I met Danny through a German friend of mine. We kind of all got together and didn't really know whether anything would work out or where it was going to go so we just started working on a few songs and started releasing singles little by little. Nearly every single that we released ended up being single of the week in NME at the time, so the first time it happened we thought oh great let's release another one it's probably a one off, and then it happened again and again, so we decided to put an album together.
We recorded the first album – bits of it were done in Liverpool and bits of it were done in Wales, and put it out as a mini LP on a Japanese label, so it was released only in Japan and over here on import. It ended up getting picked up by a record label called Emperor Norton in the US through this guy called Steve Pross, who kind of obsessively collects and I think was really into Japanese pop music at the time, which was something that we were into a little bit as well.
Was Japanese pop one of your main influences as a band?
There were a few compilations that came out of there in the late 90s, and German record label Bungalow released a couple of Japanese pop compilations at the time, and it wasn't so much that they were influential, it's just they were doing something that didn't seem to be done in Europe at the time.
When we got together we came from slightly different influences. I was into krautrock, Helen was more into pop, Danny and Reuben were into French electronic music, and we were all into 60s disco music. So there were a lot similarities as well but we just wanted to make something that wasn't around at the time, and also three of us were DJing and so kind of knew what music we wanted to play and at the time it wasn't being done so we almost ended up making music to just satisfying our needs to begin with.
How do you go about creating a track, do you usually have a typical process that you tend to follow?
We rarely get together as a band and just sit there with nothing to work on and think let's jam. Usually someone has worked on an idea and maybe it's like a riff, a sound or a beat, or maybe it's much more complete and it's an instrumental track and it needs lyrics. So every track is completely different, you might have had a melody in your head for ages and then suddenly you sit down and start building it up. Or other times you are messing about at home and you find a sound that you like.
You've done quite a few remixes over the years – are there any that really stand out as remixes you particularly enjoyed doing?
I enjoyed working on the Nine Inch Nails mix, just because I really respect them production wise so it was really nice to be asked to do something like that. Blondie as well was great to work on as I'm a massive fan – it's just amazing to hear how it was made and to hear it in parts, I would never had imagined that we'd actually do anything like that. It's something I listened to as a kid so I never imagined I would be able to do that.
You've opened for some great bands, what was your best experience?
Nine Inch Nails was a really amazing tour that brought us a few new fans, it was just good to go out with an established band rather than a band that's kind of hyped at the time, and also a band who's work you really respect. And it was nice that they asked us, I think Trent really liked our music so that was good to know.
You've been around for over ten years as a band, how do you feel about the changes in the music industry?
There are a lot of things we don't think about, but I think the main thing we focus on is to primarily satisfy us and stick by our guns and never try to second guess what an audience or a record label is going to do. We've been on so many labels that have folded, and if it wasn't for us sticking through it then we wouldn't have survived.
Obviously we live in a much more globalized world these days, it has its downside as people don't pay for your music a lot of the time, but on the plus side people in Columbia can hear your record when it's not even out and you can go and play in front of 3000 people there.
What is the inspiration for the album, and how does it compare or differ to your previous releases?
I feel that they've all differed and a couple of times there's been a bigger jump from previous releases than other times. With Velocifero I don't think that was a huge departure from Witching Hour, it was more of a progression. Whereas now I feel with this album there's another big jump, and in a way releasing the Best Of almost wipes the slate clean. It's a lot more of an atmospheric record than previous ones, more mature without being boring.
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NME interview (2011)
The Ladytron singer doesn't care about her lack of UK hits — and she can rustle up a mean tart
- Ladytron have a Best Of album out
- Mira is keen to explain that Ladytron are NOT splitting up as a result
- One wonders if, in the event of Ladytron eventually splitting, Buckingham Palace will fly the flag at half mast? Probably not, to be honest
Hello, Mira. What have I interrupted you doing?
Cooking for tonight.
Is tonight a "big night"?
No, we just have some friends we owe a big meal to. I'm cooking an onion tart. It's kind of like a big fat pizza.
When you said "an onion tart" it sounded like "Narnian tart" and I was wondering what the CS Lewis angle was.
I don't live in a snow-covered work, unfortunately. And I just don't have a magical wardrobe.
Will you be serenading your guests tonight like they do on Come Dine With Me?
No, although my husband has been known to get out the acoustic guitar.
That certainly doesn't sound 'on message' for a Ladytron husband.
Yeah, he likes to try and jam. At least he only does it when he's drunk.
We are here to discuss Ladytron's glittering career. It has been going for 12 years. Interestingly, not a Top 40 hit in that time.
No. We've grazed close and we've had hits in other countries. It's never really been very England-centric. Luckily we arrived at the age of globalisation.
Do you not think, sometimes, "We've been making music for a long time, why won't somebody buy our bloody records"?
We kind of gave up on that early on and we've spent the last six years trying to persuade record companies to not think that way either.
If Ladytron were a condiment what would you be on the supermarket shelf?
Probably Tabasco sauce.
Is that a proper condiment though? Is it?
Well, you put it on oysters and things and it cheers them up.
Do Ladytron really cheer people up? Your music's good but you're not exactly a party band...
Sometimes people do dance and kind of bop along to our music.
But not in the same way people dance to, for example, "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. People go apeshit for that. They don't do that for The Hits of Ladytron, do they?
A friend of mine said that for years he stacked shelves in a record shop and he said that "Destroy Everything You Touch" made his job easier. But you're right, we're not cheerful in the way Spanish or Japanese bands can be.
It's good to be wary of people who are too cheerful.
I guess we make people smile internally so they're not going around being a danger to themselves and an annoyance to other people.
What annoys you?
People not holding doors for you.
Does that upset you because you are A Lady or because you are a human being who simply deserves to be respected?
Because I'm a human being. I do have a lot of annoyances. People annoy me when they are not logical.
How's the onion tart?
It's been put on hold.
What goes into Ladytron's tart?
I don't want to be remembered as the Delia Smith of electronic music!
It'll good to be remembered for something.
I'd rather be the Heston Blumenthal but my tart isn't very experimental. Although the secret ingredient that goes into the base is cinnamon.
Steady on!
Yes. And anchovies. And olives.
I think on that bombshell it is time to end the interview.
OK. Thank you.
Source (magazine scan)
- Ladytron have a Best Of album out
- Mira is keen to explain that Ladytron are NOT splitting up as a result
- One wonders if, in the event of Ladytron eventually splitting, Buckingham Palace will fly the flag at half mast? Probably not, to be honest
Hello, Mira. What have I interrupted you doing?
Cooking for tonight.
Is tonight a "big night"?
No, we just have some friends we owe a big meal to. I'm cooking an onion tart. It's kind of like a big fat pizza.
When you said "an onion tart" it sounded like "Narnian tart" and I was wondering what the CS Lewis angle was.
I don't live in a snow-covered work, unfortunately. And I just don't have a magical wardrobe.
Will you be serenading your guests tonight like they do on Come Dine With Me?
No, although my husband has been known to get out the acoustic guitar.
That certainly doesn't sound 'on message' for a Ladytron husband.
Yeah, he likes to try and jam. At least he only does it when he's drunk.
We are here to discuss Ladytron's glittering career. It has been going for 12 years. Interestingly, not a Top 40 hit in that time.
No. We've grazed close and we've had hits in other countries. It's never really been very England-centric. Luckily we arrived at the age of globalisation.
Do you not think, sometimes, "We've been making music for a long time, why won't somebody buy our bloody records"?
We kind of gave up on that early on and we've spent the last six years trying to persuade record companies to not think that way either.
If Ladytron were a condiment what would you be on the supermarket shelf?
Probably Tabasco sauce.
Is that a proper condiment though? Is it?
Well, you put it on oysters and things and it cheers them up.
Do Ladytron really cheer people up? Your music's good but you're not exactly a party band...
Sometimes people do dance and kind of bop along to our music.
But not in the same way people dance to, for example, "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. People go apeshit for that. They don't do that for The Hits of Ladytron, do they?
A friend of mine said that for years he stacked shelves in a record shop and he said that "Destroy Everything You Touch" made his job easier. But you're right, we're not cheerful in the way Spanish or Japanese bands can be.
It's good to be wary of people who are too cheerful.
I guess we make people smile internally so they're not going around being a danger to themselves and an annoyance to other people.
What annoys you?
People not holding doors for you.
Does that upset you because you are A Lady or because you are a human being who simply deserves to be respected?
Because I'm a human being. I do have a lot of annoyances. People annoy me when they are not logical.
How's the onion tart?
It's been put on hold.
What goes into Ladytron's tart?
I don't want to be remembered as the Delia Smith of electronic music!
It'll good to be remembered for something.
I'd rather be the Heston Blumenthal but my tart isn't very experimental. Although the secret ingredient that goes into the base is cinnamon.
Steady on!
Yes. And anchovies. And olives.
I think on that bombshell it is time to end the interview.
OK. Thank you.
Source (magazine scan)
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